Decouple Nested Stacks

As step towards the more granular architecture described in the convegence-engine spec, it has been proposed that we could more effectively decouple nested stacks within the existing heat architecture.

Problem description

Creating a tree of many nested stacks results in the entire stack tree getting processed, for every stack operation, by one heat-engine process, with access to every nested stack serialized by the same global lock (that obtained to access the top-level stack).

While the arguably more complex and invasive steps described by convergence-engine are worked out (which may take some time, and will probably be made simpler by the decoupling described below), it’s proposed that we look at decoupling nested stacks more effectively from their parent, such that we can make use of the existing RPC round-robin scheduling to enable nested stacks operations (e.g create/update/delete) to be handled in a more scalable way by spreading the work for each stack over multiple engine processes or workers.

Proposed change

  • Rework the engine RPC interfaces to enable some additional arguments to be passed to create/update operations, such that the existing coupling (for example passing user_creds ID’s) between parent and nested stacks can be broken.
  • Refactor the StackResource base-class to perform operations via RPC and not manipulate parser.Stack objects directly when performing lifecycle operations

Note that the StackResource rework will focus on performing actions which change the state of the stack via RPC calls (e.g those which are performed asynchronously via an IN_PROGRESS state), leaving the existing code for stack introspection unchanged. This should allow a less risky transition to the new interfaces with minimal rework of the StackResource subclasses.

One area which may be left for a future enhancement is the polling for COMPLETE state after triggering the action via RPC, e.g when we triggger a nested stack create via an RPC call, we will poll the DB directly waiting for the CREATE COMPLETE state in check_create_complete. In future, it would be better to wait for a notification to avoid the overhead of polling the DB.


Wait for the full convergence-engine vision to come together I guess, but it seems apparent that we need a more immediate mitigation plan for the subset of users who care primarily about these kind of workloads.



Steven Hardy (shardy)


Target Milestone for completion:

Work Items

  • Rework RPC interfaces
  • Convert StackResource create operations to create the stack via RPC
  • Convert StackResource delete operations to delete the stack via RPC
  • Convert StackResource suspend operations to suspend the stack via RPC
  • Convert StackResource resume operations to resume the stack via RPC
  • Convert StackResource check operations to check the stack via RPC
  • Convert StackResource update operations to update the stack via RPC


None, but this could be considered a precursor to the convergence-engine work.

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